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Pillager v2 by Toxic Masculinity Nutrition

May 20, 2025

Toxic masculinity nutrition is one of my favorite companies out there. Real gym meatheads making real pre workout for meatheads. I have their Warlord pump and Pillager pre workout and will definitely get the Conqueror too.

Experience. the flavor I have is cherry vanilla it smells really good it tastes really good as well it has some bitterness and it has some sour, bitter after taste when you drink it but it's not something that will bother you you just drink it down and head to the gym. I have tried their previous version of the Pillager workout which had Juglans Regia, natural source of DMHA , it was rocket pop flavor which tastes most likely lemonade rather than popsicle, they definitely improved their flavoring System since then and but I think this chair vanilla can be improved a little bit more. it's really hard to do so because it has a lot of stimulants and ingredients in it which makes it hard to taste good. But it's 2025 and I think just like other companies tmn also can improve their flavoring system. Beta alanine kick is very weak, I barely felt it. DMHA in it, it's subtle but it's there, taking into account that it's only 150 mg it does contribute to the overall experience, it definitely has illicit feeling to it. Together with alpha Yohimbine it creates a aggressive mood elevation and drive type of experience. I'm fond of such pre workouts. Drive and let's work mindset is the star of the show. The energy is high and it's sustained and it takes around 40 50 minutes to full come together and you are dialed in it in the workout focus is top notch pumps are Savage. you don't need to stack any pump formula on it. It's not over the top or too strong so I think you can use it twice a week, spaced out and of course you gotta assess your tolerance and always start with half scoop if you are beginner. the scoop is 17 G on point I put on the kitchen scale and it shows exactly 17 grams. Small companies coming out with good manufacturing and such moments like scoop size accuracy is very good point, and shows they do care about their customers. I think toxic Masculinity Nutrition should get a lot of recognition and they will. Looking forward to getting Conqueror too. It's available in couple stores but mostly you can get it at their website and if you're a stim junkie, you definitely gonna like this product. It's very balanced pre workout.

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Euphoria by Star Labs DMBA Hitter

May 20, 2025

I have tried Euphoria pre workout sample from Ruesco. As a spoiler I would say I liked it but not quite enough to go and buy the whole tubs. That's when beauty of sampling comes in play and makes it every practical.

Experience - The flavor I had was Ecstasy flavor. It's honestly unbelievable how taste a high stim pre can be. Till this day it's by far a true 10/10. No artificial colors, great mixability. You cannot believe it has all those stims in it which are usually very bitter and chemical tasting.

Beta alanine was very mild, I barely noticed it. And it did a lot time to build up to its full effect. Initial kick was very noticeable and nice,which translated into good vibes, mood elevation and overall wakefulness. Focus enhancement was there, since I noticed things kinda became HD. Like you could focus your vision into minor details of anything, but not like zoning out. It did build up to some extent, but while I was already warming up getting ready to work with the weights, it didn't go up from there. I kinda was expecting much more since the initial kick was so apparent. But unfortunately it didn't, and that's where I got my expectations down. It felt somehow similiar to OG Stim Shady pre with DMBA only which showed itself mostly in mood elevation department and nothing else . Most prominent effect of DMBA for me which I favor the most is the strength output. Euphoria pre workout unfortunately didn't provide any boost in strength, power department. I was really good rested and hydrated had good night sleep last night and I have not taken any High stim pre workout for the past 3 days. usually when I test out the samples I make sure I review for myself, to elaborate the effects better by making sure every other aspect before taking a pre-workout are in place. Taking account all the effects and experience with it especially with my performance I could confidently say it does not live up to its name because it didn't give any euphoria as well and I was not looking forward to buy the whole tub.

It had no side effects intra or post workout. Didn't notice any crash aswell.

Pumps were decent, mind muscle connection was even better.

It might be a good choice for intermediate pre workout users who wants to take or start with high stim workout it's a good place to start.

Forneuss

Herolean v1 by Dark Labs

May 20, 2025

Dark labs always delivers the hardcore pre workout and this fatburner/ pre workout goes above and beyond in every category.

When original Herolean came out, label was looking insane, at that times Dark Labs still was working with legit DMAA and I believe they did put it in this product aswell along with other products like Crack Gold, Crack Purple. Ingredients list is very crazy and it's definitely screams for advanced stim junkies only. Powder itself when I got it was already had little clumped up pieces and by time passed they got more and more, in the end it turned into gooey, molten candy like texture which was impossible to use it. The experience itself was pretty roller-coaster. Nuclear heat and thermogenic feeling inside was very strong and urge to move and workout was very prominent. It's one of the pre workouts that you feel that you are stimmed out of your mind. DMAA aggression and urgency was there, but I have never gotten any DMHA mood elevation from it. It's definitely let's get to work type high stim pre, rather than euphoric, happy type. I believe It's all connected to Yo-yo blend in it, 10mg Yohimbine HCl and 1mg of Alpha Yo. There's something about that Yo-yo blend and it's synergy.

Sweating kicks in 5 minutes right after starting the workout. I'm usually not sweating much during workouts, even with products which had 50mg GBB, but due all other ingredients working together in Herolean only 25mg of GBB was more than enough for sweating and burning calories. Flavor is Tropical Punch and it's Taste is very bad, have to stack some good tasting pump formula to mask both bad flavor and cover the pump department which this product does not have.

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Excelsior Super İllicit Pre workout

May 20, 2025

For the long time I've been hearing how Excelsior pre-workout is one of the best super illicit hitters. But because of the price and it's being sold overseas only in UK I never was interested to get a whole tub. Ruesco restocked Excelsior and I got a couple samples from there and also Exoticsuppdad Amol sent me a couple servings of samples of that as well to try it out.

Experience: I was very skeptical and I was very scared as well to take the Pre-Workout because there was reviews where people got bad side effects from it but most of it had a great workout so I took it with no pump formula was stacked. I was expecting to get some closer experience to Juiced which I have tried and didn't enjoy, that drugged out, Hyper focused state kind of experience. But it was not like that to my surprise.

It only has one flavor which is fruit punch and it's very generic fruit punch flavor that is enjoyable easy to drink and taste really nice. The build-up took around 45 minutes to reach it s full effect, but still after that I kinda expecting it to go up even more, because people are saying this is all day experience. But it didn't go beyond that which I really liked. Workout itself was very productive, I was calm and collected, hitting sets and exercises right after one another, progressing all my lifts, reps and weights which is my priority in my training style. I wanted to drink water more than usual, but I observed no side effects or weirdness from it. It's was very smooth, nice experience at all times I took it. Didn't felt like I was stimmed up or its too much. It had some illicit floaty feeling to it at times but overall I wouldn't call it super illicit or underground. It varies from batch to batch as well. So people constantly comparing their batches, expiry dates and tubs. What I got is 06/27. Another way that I discovered to use was to stack it with Crack Barbarian. Idea came from MeatyMorsels and I think originally it was Nigels idea lol But the truth is that combination does work and they perform better together, personally for me. So I'm not recommending to mix it to anyone. You can add pump formulas on top of it. It would definitely enhance mind muscle connection too.

Bottom line is if you are fan of such pre workouts you can get it, but I'm personally not interested paying 110$ for a tub, it's just me. Far more better and cheaper options out there are available.

Forneuss

Stim Thug- Slap City pre workout

May 20, 2025

Kilo labs always delivered the most potent and legit pre workouts. This one is no exception. I have tried a sample of the original version of Stim Thug with slight differences in the label

Experience : To start with the taste, I got the Still sipping flavor which stands for Watermelon peach. It was very enjoyable drink, had a slight bitter aftertaste but nothing off putting. Goes down easy. Beta alanine kicks in mid to high level. It fades away quickly or just feels like it because caffeine and other stims comes in play real fast and it kinda puts beta alanine on the backseat. 350 mg is a very good dose for a high end daily pre workout which I believe it was meant to be and the experience matches it as well. Focus and concentration is really enhanced with this one. As I was training I was thinking to myself that I really like it and would get a full tub to keep in my rotation. Everything I want from a daily pre workout was delivered. Sick, Vascular pumps mental clarity motivation good sustained energy drive a little bit of aggression from the Alpha Yohimbine. 1mg dose is such a vibe and great dose for anybody, even for ones who's sensitive to its side effects yet with my 1 mg you can get all the benefits and no side effects like runny nose cold sweats, too much stimmed up feeling. Post workout energy tapered off smoothly, di-caffeine malate really does contribute to minimize crash that might come from stims. Only ingredient that I'm not sure if it did its job was the Eria jeranesis. When this ingredient is well sourced it might feel like you took DMHA pre. Overall very solid product. Looking forward to try new reformulated version too!

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Smash AMF - Super İllicit Pre

May 20, 2025

When KJ laps dropped smash AMF everyone got crazy because it felt really different from any other pre workout on the market today and the label itself did not really match the experiences people are having. I have actually a theory that UK labs, Firestorm and smash AMF are made in the same manufacturer and uses more or less identical ingredients, even their labels, powder consistency, flavor look and tubs are very alike. Before buying a whole tub I decided to try a sample from Ruesco to test the waters, because usually I'm not a big fan of such shady pre-workouts that feel like drugs as people describing it.

Experience: I have tried only 6 grams out of 10 grams for my first time, which was my last time as well. Flavor I had was blue razz and it didn't taste good, but I think it's the last point that must be talked about this pre workout. Didn't notice any beta alanine, even tho it was in the label, and this ingredients panel doesn't make any sense at all anyways. I didn't stack any pump formulas to better gauge the effects. 20-30 minutes in, I felt something really illicit but in a weird and unpleasant way,not the way typical exotic stimulants are brewing and contributes to mood elevation or euphoria. I had none of these. It felt most likely Juiced but with a lil less intense feel to it. I pushed the workout nevertheless, it didn't enhanced my workout performance, and I'd say even halted it in weird way, because I was both Hyper focused and totally Zoning out. I was really out of it. What ever research chemical or ingredient that isn't listed in this pre did not agree with me. So I didn't even looked forward to try again my 2nd sample that I bought. It works great for many people, unfortunately not for me, so I cannot recommend it.

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HyperMax 3D - As good as daily can get

April 16, 2025

As little weaker brother of high stim Hypermaxed out pre workout, HyperMax 3D, actually the oldest one. I have used original version 5-6 years ago it was a hitter and new version is improved for sure. They recently released HyperMax Grand Pre. Label looks similar except some pump ingredients.

I have purchased this pre from Nutricartel along with VasoMax pump formula to stack and use it together. Both are now 39$ since new line of these products came out.

Experience - Flavor I have is Rocket Bomb flavor. It's okay, to me it taste more like Lemonade flavor which I don't like. It has deep green color, which I think is unnecessary, as artificial colors must not be used in 2025.

Beta alanine kicks in around 5-7 minutes. Then caffeine kick and enegry flow builds up slowly. At first I felt like it didn't really have much effect but as the time passed and I started doing my warm-up sets I could feel I'm very energized motivated and focused on my workout. Motivation is very subtle but it's there there's a very good sense of well-being and mental clarity. Alpha yohimbine has a nice backbone to the whole experience minus the side effects that you might get from it. I take two scoops every time and it translates into very good pumps and enhanced performance. Personally I would consider this as a perfect daily workout even though he has some great area ingredients like Eria Jarensis and Beta PEA which is proven to have similiar effects like amphetamines. Nevertheless it feels like a healthy pre workout option. Best suited for intermediate and experienced pre workout connoisseurs, who want to cycle off high stim pres and daily pre workouts in between the training days. Pumps are solid, I did stacked VasoMax first time I used it, but then next time when I didn't stack anything, pumps were as just as good. 3d pump breakthrough ingredients is one my favorite pump compound. It's a perfect mix of Vascular and Swole pumps and the pumps stays longer than it would with Nitrates for example. Overall it's a great product and definitely recommend it. 10/10 daily pre which excels at every aspect of a pre workout.

Forneuss

Hypermax'd Out - Strongest High stim pre ATM

April 16, 2025

Performix labs, has being around for a while now, and one of the most reputable all rounder supplement company. I've been using their products through out the years. And their new hard hitting HyperMax'd out is as strong as a daily pre workout can get, I'd personally put it as high stim pre. İt's ain't no joke. Despite it does not have exotic stimulants like DMHA, DMBA. I purchased the samples of it 4 times now from Ruesco and experience was pretty identical even though I played with different doses, since it's 1 scoop /2 scoops serving size type of pre workout.

Experience - Flavor I that was dragon fruit flavor it's okay drinkable a little rough texture to it and mixability is not an issue. First time I've tried 1 scoop, beta alanine kicks in about 5 minutes it's really strong. Enegry kick is fast and feels like a slap in the face, waking you up and starts elevating your energy, heart rate and focus. It's unique experience, because it's like everything comes together all in once and it doesn't take much time to build. You can definitely take in the locker room or right before starting the gym. Only alpha Yohimbine reaches its peak around 40 minutes, which feels like a second kick. Thinfin is very potent trademark ingredient which is Phenethylamine (PEA) both Performix labs and Xtremis Cartel uses, I believe that's exact reason why the initial kick in enegry and mood is fast. That's why it is called as love drug. Phenethylamine stimulates the body to make certain chemicals that play a role in brain chemistry which makes you feel happy, enhanced mood and sense of wellbeing. It has relatively short half-life but together with other stimulants like Caffeine and Eria it has prolonged effect. Especially if paired with Hordenine it can last as long as 40 minutes. But main star of the show with this pre workout isn't mood elevation it is the aggression, enegry and crazy drive forward. Yo-yo blend is so strong that even at 1 scoop I felt extremely energized and stimulated, I couldn't sit in one place even between sets. I was walking back and forth forwards I felt extremely strong , weights felt lighter. I could definitely push on more weights more reps. I got a PR on bench press with ease. It definitely has some alpha Yohimbine side effects like elevated heart rate runny nose cold sweats, sweaty palms but if you can't handle it for a certain amount of time, it all eventually subside and you will be working out really hard. 2nd time I took it it was 1.25 scoop which was similar experience but even stronger. It was borderline anxious feeling, so I guess even 1.5 scoops will be too much for me, and will put me in survival mode. It makes this product a true 40 servings pre workout for most people. That's why price point is really good.

Pumps were rock hard and muscle contractions was intense. I would recommend this only to experienced stim junkies that enjoyes alpha Yo pre workouts, even then it is recommended to start with 1 scoop first, then adjust the tolerance from there!

Forneuss

Jack3d - Former shadow of itself

April 16, 2025

Jack3d is the legendary pre workout that started that all high stim phenomenon. I personally didn't have the chance to try it back in the day. So I have tried a sample of new version from Ruesco and this version now formulated under Hi-tech Pharma umbrella.

Experience - I took 2 scoops, which most people recommend taking it. 3 scoops might be an overkill. Flavor I had was Pineapple flavor. It's very nice, pleasant flavor, felt like pineapple juice. No bitterness. Beta alanine kicked in pretty fast and strong. Soon after initial caffeine stimulation kicked in. I gave me some stomach ache initially, but then went away. Sense of urgency came like a rocket and it was jittery and anxious type of urgency which I don't like. Drove to the gym and started doing warm ups, it was still building, but fortunately it didn't get any stronger and unfortunately didn't get any better too. Energy was high, but Jittery, shaky feeling stayed with me whole workout and even post workout for another hour. I couldn't concentrate on my other stuff post workout, doing things calmly, I was unrest and all over the place. Comparing to Mesomorph which was great experience both pre and post workout mood elevation department, this one didn't do anything remarkable for me. Along with Kran3d/Amp3d this fall into Hi-tech products that I don't like. Pumps were okay, proprietary blend only has arginine which is the least effective pump ingredient, so you can definitely add pump formula on top of it

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DL Euphoria - DMHA/ERIA Hitter for Mad Scientists activities

April 16, 2025

It is one of my favorite add-on ingredients. 100mg of DMHA and 100mg of Eria Jarensis is so versatile, potent and effective as both standalone and stackable product.

I have used this mostly before I bought too much DMHA pre workout. İt's great option if you have a lot daily pre workout and very less DMHA pres, thus stacking this onto any regular pre workout, you will have illicit high stim pre workout.

Experience : 1-2 caps is the perfect dose for it. I have tried it and tested it out in many ways. On its own with 1 capsule I didn't notice any effects honestly and to me it's not worth it to take a DMHA ingredient, have it in your system, affect your adrenal glands and not benefit from it. because I only take the DMHA couple times a week I don't want to waste this chance. With 2 caps it's a lil different. You feel something in the background, illicit feeling and mild mood elevation. But for me as stim junkie it doesn't do anything, neither I'm not going to take this and do work. I take stims only to improve performance in the gym. However one time I have tried 2 caps with double espresso and went to techno night. It was unique experience, because of the synergy and accelerated effect when these stimulants are paired with Caffeine, in my case caffeine from espresso, around 120mg of it, I could definitely feel it working and contribute to alertness, mood elevation and some background buzz, it was still minor though, nothing crazy like euphoric buzzing out of your mind. Other times I paired it with Psychotic Red, DVST8 Dark and Alpha Lion Supreme pre workout. Each time it was certainly improved experience, it had illicit feeling to it and I did get both DMHA benefits and side effects like dry mouth, appetite suppression slightly more elevated heart rate than usual. Currently I'm not using it, since I already having so many illicit, DMHA, DMBA high stim pre workouts that İ cannot even stack or use it in my weekly rotation. But if you are traveling it's a great option, since you can only take some caffeine pills and this little tub of Euphoria and you can have great workout while traveling or on holidays, away from home. It's relatively side effects free, so beginner high stim users can definitely get it.

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