GGH and Dark Labs did create an absolute banger. First one was my absolute favorite it was extremely euphoric and happy mood to work out. The second run is the same label but it does hit a little differently a little strong little aggressive motivation less euphoria but still it has the same source it has the same effects it has the same vibes delicious flavors , no bitter after taste. pumps are awesome. always put you in a good mood. It's super consistent hits every time, no bad workouts on ot. I have both versions and my favorite way to run it is to take half scoop of v1 and half scoop of v2. Definitely must have stim junkie pre workout. It's in my personal top 5 high stim pre workouts of all times.
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Reviewing since Dec 2024
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60 publishedDark Labs and Nutricartel created one of the strongest, hard hitting pre workouts on the market. It's just unbelievable how stacked and maxed out the label is. It definitely has the good goods and you will not question it. Advanced users only. I started with full heaped scoop which is 27 g serving size and it was almost too much. The aggression, energy and sense of urgency, power output it provides is unreal. Weights felt light, PR's on top of PR's. Going non stop, no pain, no fatigue just right rocker fuel. Closer to the end of the workout I felt the cold sweats and little background nausea, which was tolerable, but post workout crash and sick feeling was real, had to chill out little bit and wait for it to level out but it's a straight 3-4 hours experience, even more. Took some chill piils before it went towards survival mode. It definitely builds over the course of total 2 hours, so you think it's Peaked but no..there's more coming. So I definitely recommend to take 3/4 scoop for your first time. Pumps were solid, mind muscle connection was really good. Flavor is Lemon Twist, it's not bad but definitely has that trademark Dark Labs chemical taste. This pre must be respected. Definitely must have in every stim junkies collection
I have tried original version and that was a very solid experience from DMHA, euphoric happy mood elevation vibes from regular Scare hours was really good. Limited Edition does up the ante! More caffeine, more DMHA and extra ingredients. This version felt just a little stronger but overall feel from the pre was similar to regular version Scary hours in terms of character. I had Grape bubblegum flavor sample, it's good solid 7.5/10, felt like regular Grape flavored pre workouts. The energy and little bit of aggression I got from it was more then enough to complete the workout and post workout there's no come down or side effects. Don't get me wrong you are still stimmed up but still can go about your day and do other works. Overall I recommend this product if you liked pre workouts like Kilo Labs Supreme it's pretty similar to that. Unfortunately Scary Hours are changing their label and will no longer have the illicit ingredients which made it unique...
Deliverance might be one of the most hyped pre workout out there but it's for a reason. People tend to buy five six tubs of it right away but I've decided to buy one tub to try first. I took one scoop 13 grams dose for the first try and I was blown away how good praise this I was stimmed up, high energy high sense of urgency incredible Focus and power output tastes really great I have blue raspberry flavor which really nice for the high stim. workout. Pumps are good but I always add pump formula on top of it., for my most heavy lifting days I always reach out to this gem and I know it will not disappoint. One of the key features that I really like about this pre is a consistency, it will hit every time. Perfect 10/10 stim experience. Definitely deserves a high stop in the stash and can be stashed in the freezer for dark days ahead of FDN Judgement Day
Pillager v2 by Toxic Masculinity Nutrition
Toxic masculinity nutrition is one of my favorite companies out there. Real gym meatheads making real pre workout for meatheads. I have their Warlord pump and Pillager pre workout and will definitely get the Conqueror too. Experience. the flavor I have is cherry vanilla it smells really good it tastes really good as well it has some bitterness and it has some sour, bitter after taste when you drink it but it's not something that will bother you you just drink it down and head to the gym. I have tried their previous version of the Pillager workout which had Juglans Regia, natural source of DMHA , it was rocket pop flavor which tastes most likely lemonade rather than popsicle, they definitely improved their flavoring System since then and but I think this chair vanilla can be improved a little bit more. it's really hard to do so because it has a lot of stimulants and ingredients in it which makes it hard to taste good. But it's 2025 and I think just like other companies tmn also can improve their flavoring system. Beta alanine kick is very weak, I barely felt it. DMHA in it, it's subtle but it's there, taking into account that it's only 150 mg it does contribute to the overall experience, it definitely has illicit feeling to it. Together with alpha Yohimbine it creates a aggressive mood elevation and drive type of experience. I'm fond of such pre workouts. Drive and let's work mindset is the star of the show. The energy is high and it's sustained and it takes around 40 50 minutes to full come together and you are dialed in it in the workout focus is top notch pumps are Savage. you don't need to stack any pump formula on it. It's not over the top or too strong so I think you can use it twice a week, spaced out and of course you gotta assess your tolerance and always start with half scoop if you are beginner. the scoop is 17 G on point I put on the kitchen scale and it shows exactly 17 grams. Small companies coming out with good manufacturing and such moments like scoop size accuracy is very good point, and shows they do care about their customers. I think toxic Masculinity Nutrition should get a lot of recognition and they will. Looking forward to getting Conqueror too. It's available in couple stores but mostly you can get it at their website and if you're a stim junkie, you definitely gonna like this product. It's very balanced pre workout.
I have tried Euphoria pre workout sample from Ruesco. As a spoiler I would say I liked it but not quite enough to go and buy the whole tubs. That's when beauty of sampling comes in play and makes it every practical. Experience - The flavor I had was Ecstasy flavor. It's honestly unbelievable how taste a high stim pre can be. Till this day it's by far a true 10/10. No artificial colors, great mixability. You cannot believe it has all those stims in it which are usually very bitter and chemical tasting. Beta alanine was very mild, I barely noticed it. And it did a lot time to build up to its full effect. Initial kick was very noticeable and nice,which translated into good vibes, mood elevation and overall wakefulness. Focus enhancement was there, since I noticed things kinda became HD. Like you could focus your vision into minor details of anything, but not like zoning out. It did build up to some extent, but while I was already warming up getting ready to work with the weights, it didn't go up from there. I kinda was expecting much more since the initial kick was so apparent. But unfortunately it didn't, and that's where I got my expectations down. It felt somehow similiar to OG Stim Shady pre with DMBA only which showed itself mostly in mood elevation department and nothing else . Most prominent effect of DMBA for me which I favor the most is the strength output. Euphoria pre workout unfortunately didn't provide any boost in strength, power department. I was really good rested and hydrated had good night sleep last night and I have not taken any High stim pre workout for the past 3 days. usually when I test out the samples I make sure I review for myself, to elaborate the effects better by making sure every other aspect before taking a pre-workout are in place. Taking account all the effects and experience with it especially with my performance I could confidently say it does not live up to its name because it didn't give any euphoria as well and I was not looking forward to buy the whole tub. It had no side effects intra or post workout. Didn't notice any crash aswell. Pumps were decent, mind muscle connection was even better. It might be a good choice for intermediate pre workout users who wants to take or start with high stim workout it's a good place to start.
Dark labs always delivers the hardcore pre workout and this fatburner/ pre workout goes above and beyond in every category. When original Herolean came out, label was looking insane, at that times Dark Labs still was working with legit DMAA and I believe they did put it in this product aswell along with other products like Crack Gold, Crack Purple. Ingredients list is very crazy and it's definitely screams for advanced stim junkies only. Powder itself when I got it was already had little clumped up pieces and by time passed they got more and more, in the end it turned into gooey, molten candy like texture which was impossible to use it. The experience itself was pretty roller-coaster. Nuclear heat and thermogenic feeling inside was very strong and urge to move and workout was very prominent. It's one of the pre workouts that you feel that you are stimmed out of your mind. DMAA aggression and urgency was there, but I have never gotten any DMHA mood elevation from it. It's definitely let's get to work type high stim pre, rather than euphoric, happy type. I believe It's all connected to Yo-yo blend in it, 10mg Yohimbine HCl and 1mg of Alpha Yo. There's something about that Yo-yo blend and it's synergy. Sweating kicks in 5 minutes right after starting the workout. I'm usually not sweating much during workouts, even with products which had 50mg GBB, but due all other ingredients working together in Herolean only 25mg of GBB was more than enough for sweating and burning calories. Flavor is Tropical Punch and it's Taste is very bad, have to stack some good tasting pump formula to mask both bad flavor and cover the pump department which this product does not have.
For the long time I've been hearing how Excelsior pre-workout is one of the best super illicit hitters. But because of the price and it's being sold overseas only in UK I never was interested to get a whole tub. Ruesco restocked Excelsior and I got a couple samples from there and also Exoticsuppdad Amol sent me a couple servings of samples of that as well to try it out. Experience: I was very skeptical and I was very scared as well to take the Pre-Workout because there was reviews where people got bad side effects from it but most of it had a great workout so I took it with no pump formula was stacked. I was expecting to get some closer experience to Juiced which I have tried and didn't enjoy, that drugged out, Hyper focused state kind of experience. But it was not like that to my surprise. It only has one flavor which is fruit punch and it's very generic fruit punch flavor that is enjoyable easy to drink and taste really nice. The build-up took around 45 minutes to reach it s full effect, but still after that I kinda expecting it to go up even more, because people are saying this is all day experience. But it didn't go beyond that which I really liked. Workout itself was very productive, I was calm and collected, hitting sets and exercises right after one another, progressing all my lifts, reps and weights which is my priority in my training style. I wanted to drink water more than usual, but I observed no side effects or weirdness from it. It's was very smooth, nice experience at all times I took it. Didn't felt like I was stimmed up or its too much. It had some illicit floaty feeling to it at times but overall I wouldn't call it super illicit or underground. It varies from batch to batch as well. So people constantly comparing their batches, expiry dates and tubs. What I got is 06/27. Another way that I discovered to use was to stack it with Crack Barbarian. Idea came from MeatyMorsels and I think originally it was Nigels idea lol But the truth is that combination does work and they perform better together, personally for me. So I'm not recommending to mix it to anyone. You can add pump formulas on top of it. It would definitely enhance mind muscle connection too. Bottom line is if you are fan of such pre workouts you can get it, but I'm personally not interested paying 110$ for a tub, it's just me. Far more better and cheaper options out there are available.
Kilo labs always delivered the most potent and legit pre workouts. This one is no exception. I have tried a sample of the original version of Stim Thug with slight differences in the label Experience : To start with the taste, I got the Still sipping flavor which stands for Watermelon peach. It was very enjoyable drink, had a slight bitter aftertaste but nothing off putting. Goes down easy. Beta alanine kicks in mid to high level. It fades away quickly or just feels like it because caffeine and other stims comes in play real fast and it kinda puts beta alanine on the backseat. 350 mg is a very good dose for a high end daily pre workout which I believe it was meant to be and the experience matches it as well. Focus and concentration is really enhanced with this one. As I was training I was thinking to myself that I really like it and would get a full tub to keep in my rotation. Everything I want from a daily pre workout was delivered. Sick, Vascular pumps mental clarity motivation good sustained energy drive a little bit of aggression from the Alpha Yohimbine. 1mg dose is such a vibe and great dose for anybody, even for ones who's sensitive to its side effects yet with my 1 mg you can get all the benefits and no side effects like runny nose cold sweats, too much stimmed up feeling. Post workout energy tapered off smoothly, di-caffeine malate really does contribute to minimize crash that might come from stims. Only ingredient that I'm not sure if it did its job was the Eria jeranesis. When this ingredient is well sourced it might feel like you took DMHA pre. Overall very solid product. Looking forward to try new reformulated version too!
When KJ laps dropped smash AMF everyone got crazy because it felt really different from any other pre workout on the market today and the label itself did not really match the experiences people are having. I have actually a theory that UK labs, Firestorm and smash AMF are made in the same manufacturer and uses more or less identical ingredients, even their labels, powder consistency, flavor look and tubs are very alike. Before buying a whole tub I decided to try a sample from Ruesco to test the waters, because usually I'm not a big fan of such shady pre-workouts that feel like drugs as people describing it. Experience: I have tried only 6 grams out of 10 grams for my first time, which was my last time as well. Flavor I had was blue razz and it didn't taste good, but I think it's the last point that must be talked about this pre workout. Didn't notice any beta alanine, even tho it was in the label, and this ingredients panel doesn't make any sense at all anyways. I didn't stack any pump formulas to better gauge the effects. 20-30 minutes in, I felt something really illicit but in a weird and unpleasant way,not the way typical exotic stimulants are brewing and contributes to mood elevation or euphoria. I had none of these. It felt most likely Juiced but with a lil less intense feel to it. I pushed the workout nevertheless, it didn't enhanced my workout performance, and I'd say even halted it in weird way, because I was both Hyper focused and totally Zoning out. I was really out of it. What ever research chemical or ingredient that isn't listed in this pre did not agree with me. So I didn't even looked forward to try again my 2nd sample that I bought. It works great for many people, unfortunately not for me, so I cannot recommend it.








