Frenzy labs has been in this game for a long time, it's one of the most reputable pre workout companies. I have tried Stim shady from them. And this Demolish has very similiar feel to it like the OG version of Stim Shady. Let's start with the least important section of the review which is taste. The flavor I have was tropical punch flavor and it was very sweet very enjoyable not typical generic fruit punch flavor . frenzy labs always nail the flavoring system. Mixability is on point. The experience: Beta Alanine kicks in around 15 minutes and stays for good 15-20 minutes it's not too strong like a medium level but you get your ears and hands itchy. Then what's quickly followed by is the surge of energy it's not too strong, it gradually builds up, initial kick is most likely caffeine.. 350mg of caffeine is the perfect amount for this pre. It does not blow your head of with caffeine and let the other exotic stimulants shine. from 15 20 minutes mark, up to hour it's a gradual climbing and you get the mood elevation, sense of well-being, mental clarity and overall you're motivated to go to the gym. It's sustained clean energy throughout the workout no ups and downs very smooth experience nothing to fear about. In terms of the DMBA I'm not really sure because when I take the DMBA in some pre-workouts I notice the strength output, Like in Crack Barbarian, weights feel light. I think it has dmaj in it but it's very subtle and you don't really feel the moment it kicks in or change your experience but it does contribute to the overall experience and motivation and mostly performance because you have very good endurance with it. To compare I would say I like the new stim Shady better than this one labels are very familiar but in terms of effect the old version I have and it wasn't that strong or that memorable. I didn't use it much but it got clumped up, turning into gummy texture overtime, most probably due to Glycerol in it. In terms of pumps it's really good, because you are tuned in your workout and you get good pumps anyway. You might wanna stack some pump pills on top it. No crash or side effects from it. It's beginner high stim pre workout, for once a week use because of the DMHA and DMBA, which body builds tolerance to it real quick. It has new version now with new label.
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Blackstone labs is one of the most hardcore brands out there. I'm well familiar with their products even back in the day from Dust and Dust v2 DMHA pres. Lately they came up with reformulated version of hardcore sleep aid - Anesthetized. Which has a special heavy hitter and gray area ingredient called Phenibut. If you are a stim junkie you are well aware of this substance. Lately reviewers been praising this sleep aid and I decided to purchase one from Nutritional Supplements Shop. Taste/Mixability/Serving size- I got the Snowcone flavor. It's taste amazing, taking into account that sleep aid products usually hard to mask and make good tasting because the ingredients they have in it. 11 gram scoop size on the scale is well on point, powder's texture and consistency is very fine (see in the attachment pictures). Powder itself to get fully dissolve takes a little bit of effort than other powder products, because it seems like it has some hydrophobic like ingredients, but eventually it all gets dissolved and not much settlings at the bottom of the shaker cup. Snowcone flavor is sweet, enjoyable, with cold water it's taste like treat. No aftertaste or bitterness in the backend. Servings per container is 25 grams which is a plus, since some sleeps supps has 20/40 servings. Effects- I've tried this 2 times now, spaced out with 7-8 days. I went with 8 grams first and then 2nd time Itook 10 grams.Because of the phenibut being a highly addictive compound, it's not recommended to take it more than 2-4 times a month. Withdrawel of phenibut is very horrible and it may cause hallucinations and body pain until it goes away. So individuals planning to take it must be very careful and responsible with this. Both two times I took it 1 hour before the sleep time and it some very interesting effects for me. Most bizarre point is actually doesn't really matter in term of its effectiveness. I got strange tingles and itchy feeling in my hands and face, just like Beta alanine gives. But my skin didn't get red, I checked the nutritional facts again maybe it had niacin so maybe it was the reason I got it, like niacin flush. But it does not and there are not any other new ingredient that I haven't tried before, including phenibut. In terms of its strength of making you fall asleep I can't point out too much. I didn't felt like I was cold out instantly or faster than normal or any other sleep aids. But it's very effective to keep you asleep during the night. The next day upon waking up I felt like I need more sleep, I had 8 hours sleep and I went back to sleep again to get another hour. I didn't experience any obvious mood elevation like I usually get even from Somatomax's half serving. I felt okay, calm rested but no signs of taking phenibut. So I could say so far I'm not really impressed. Somatomax is still king for me. Some reviewers swear by it and have put it in the top spot in their top sleep aids lists. People are different so is the experience and reactions to it. I'll try it more in the future with 11 grams next time. Maybe next month to take 2 weeks completely off phenibut to gauge its effect better. I'll write review on Somatomax which is 20 servings on label but technically it's 40 servings for me because I use only half serving and it's way more effective than this product. Maybe it's a good product for individuals who wants to dabble with exotic sleep supps and not be overwhelmed with strong products like Somatomax which has double amount of phenibut in it ? To conclude I'm not to sure to recommend this product since I haven't been experiencing its full effect yet, which I use such products to get better mood next day, aid to somewhat reset my stim tolerance and feel high stim pres better the next days. So far it felt like daily sleep aids supplements and label and effects hasn't been matching for me. If it was a daily supp without phenibut it would be 5/5 sleep aid but because of the label and claims it's a generous 3/5
Comeback of the legendary pre workout, which I haven't tried back in the day, but I was expecting a lot from this pre according to latest review and it definitely exceeded my expectations. Taste/Mixability - I have tropical Strawberry flavor it's unbelievable, how good a high stim can taste. It's 10/10, what a treat. Powder itself is very fluffy, looks exactly like Killswitch, Wildfire, Irate. Probably the same manufacturer. No artificial colors which is a plus. Serving side is on point. Flat scoop is 12 grams. Experience- Beta alanine tingles was kinda weak. Energy builds up fairly quickly along with strong euphoric buzz, followed by "eye opening" focus and things kinda become HD. Drive, sense of urgency, motivation, mood elevation, you name it, this pre delivers it all. It's very euphoric, but yet you stay dialed in, focused in the training. No fatigue or energy loss. Strength output is decent. Best intra workout feeling since I had Legit or Barbarian for the first time. Pumps are somehow very good, probably because of the top notch mind muscle connection it provides. No side effects, except wanting to drink more water than usual. Post workout everything is cool. Mood elevation lasts for good couple hours. A little bit of appetite suppression. Comparison/Similarity - It's one of the most euphoric pres out there. Darkhorse felt pretty identical. Hive v2 and Maniaco v1 also feels similiar. Energy/Performance - 10/10 Mood elevation/Euphoria - 10/10 Strength output - 8.5/10 Pumps 9/10 Taste 10/10 Overall 10/10 pre for me. It's actually somewhat slept on product. If you a stim junkie you should not miss the chance to get it or even stock up. It's a work of beauty on its own. 100% recommended
Transparent labs are well known for their quality products and Sleep & Recover is definitely one of them. Purchased this from Nutricartel for 30$ and it's the version that has Melatonin. It's only 2mg combined from two sources in the product which is potented version as Microactive®. Personally I never had issues with Melatonin and lag it may result the next day according to people who are sensitive to that ingredient. So I went won't melatonin, but if you are sensitive to it, you can order the version without melatonin. Serving size is 4 capsules.it's gelatin based caps with no artificial coloring which is a big plus, taking into account how unhealthy they are. Capsules aren't big, easy to consume. The pros of capsule based sleep aids that are you can take them with less water than powder, so you don't wake up in the middle of the night to go to bathroom. Cons are that capsule based products take a little more time to get on its full effect because it takes time to get dissolved in the stomach rather than powder is more quick to be adsorbed. So if you can't sleep and have to sleep now, because you have to wake up early, capsules isn't a great choice because its gonna take time. I usually don't have any sleep issues and thus take sleep aids planned for better sleep and recovery and 30 minutes to hour before bed time, so it will slowly give its full effect by the actual bedtime. Sleep&Recover isn't a heavy hitter sleep aid when you need sleep the most, maybe you have taken high stim pre closer to evening even at night, so don't expect to knock you out, it's relatively weak but gets the job done when you need to wind down, relax and slowly fall into the sleep and stay as sleep during the night. Next day you won't feel any lag or tiredness if you had at least 8 hours of sleep of course. It's a good product to take 3-4 times a week. I don't recommend taking sleep aids everyday. But it's relatively safe to take multiple times a week because it doesn't have high doses of GABA or phenibut. It's mostly based on Glycine and Melatonin. For the serving size and price it's definitely a good product to purchase. Sometimes I take 2 caps, the half dose and it still good enough.
This is hands down one of best DMHA pres out there, that has no L-theanine, GABA or Kanna any other crap. Grabbed a tub from the last restock at Nutricartel, according to Jake this was the last batch ever. Taste/Mixability/Serving size - Powder is pretty clumped up, and fixated like that lol It's like little rocks that won't turn into powder, to get the full serving size you have to heap the shit out of the scoop or take 1.5 scoops Mixes just fine though. Actually I was surprised it got dissolved after couple shakes and nothing sat at the bottom of the shaker cup. Flavor is Red Gummy, which reminded me El Jefe's gummy bears flavor. It's kinda nasty but you can just chug it down. Experience- Barely felt any beta alanine. It took good 45 minutes to peak. It's not a slapper. Energy builds up slowly, but it takes you from zero to 100 for sure. Best way I can describe it that, it will make you LOCKED IN. Super focus , drive , aggressive mood elevation are the main points. DMHA feels legit, it's not euphoric. Mind muscle connection are outstanding, pumps are awesome. I got to agree with HighStimAce view on Citruline Malate being somehow better tha L-Citruline alone. High energy is sustained throughout the workout, you just don't feel any fatigue or pain. It's not a drug addict stim junkie pre, you are not feeling high or buzzing. Just working hard and training as brutal as possible,which I really really loved. Comparison/Similarity - I could say such DMHA pres has its own category which stands out on pure performance, aggressive mood elevation and endurance. This falls just right in that category along with OG Chaotic Rage, Crack Primal, OG Helios and new Pillager as well. Post workout - I had good mood, sense of wellbeing and still tons of energy. No fatigue despite the intense training. No major sides effects, except mouth feeling dry and drinking tons of water, like Saul Goodman coming out of dessert. Appetite is down by a lot. Energy - 5/5 Strength/power output - 4/5 Mood elevation(aggressive) - 5/5 Pumps 4/5 Taste 2/5 Overall- strong 4/5.
It’s a solid high end daily pre workout which delivers long sustained energy. I didn't expect much from the label and from other reviews. It's not much talked pre workout. So decided grab a sample from Ruesco and try it. Taste and mixability is great. No chemical aftertaste. Blue Ice flavor is I assume is blue raspberry flavor which is really hard to mess up, so it was very enjoyable, also since there not a lot to mask. Energy and urgency comes in fast but in a very smooth fashion, and keeps going for solid 2-3 hours. Focus and drive is okay, it's not the craziest like Piana is displayed in the picture. No side effects, maybe a little elevated heart rate which isn't that big of a deal. You can stack it with pump formula. I used without it to gauge the effects better, since adding pump formula can mellow out the experience and nerf the stimulants in it. I got the pump from training itself. No crazy Vascularity or swole pumps. It's okay Performance 4/5 Energy 4/5 Mood elevation 3/5 Pumps 3/5 Taste/Mixability 5/5 Overall 3.5/5 I personally would not buy a whole tub, since there are way better daily pre-workouts that works far super than this one. It's not a weak pre on its own though, for beginners or individuals low stim tolerance it's considered as high stim pre. Rich Piana once said he used 3 scoops of this all the time which is crazy. RIP Legend
Experience with new Irate was disappointing experience. I took the pre at full 11 grams, Beta Alanine kicked in first, mid – to high level of tingles. Then quickly followed by mood elevation, warm fuzzy euphoric feeling, something was brewing in the background then it became apparent enough for illicit type of pre workout especially claiming DMAA. Then good focus, nootropic effects came in, music sounded good, start was very good, high level. But then, 30 minutes in, it kinda leveled out, stopped all together, I went back to “normal” calm state, during the actual workout it did not aid me in any way. 2nd time I took it was almost 2 scoops of it which equals to 15 grams. That's when the experience was solid. But still nothing crazy like DMAA would actually give you. Mood elevation, motivation, good energy was there accompanied with good focus. It's a stim junkie pre workout they must be taken only after stim break when stim tolerance is fairly low. And in total if I'd try a sample of it I wouldn't buy the whole tub. So I keep it in my stash to use it only after stim break. That's when it will shine. Pumps were okay. Flavor is Pink Cosmic candy which is fairly nice tasting, it reminds me Pink Lemonade flavor. It's artificial color free so that's a plus. Overall I was a big fan of Jaggernaut nutrition back in the, got to try Wild pre back then. But not the Irate. People say original formula with 1,3 DMAA was a lot stronger and apparent on euphoria. It's a pre workout that I'd recommend to beginner stim junkies who wants to dabble with illicit exotic ingredients without getting the side effects
I really liked this one. Experience is very smooth, clean. Provides good energy, focus and it has legit DMHA feel to it. More on the euphoric, mood elevation pres like Zeus, Kilo Labs Supreme, Hive v2, Stim Shady. Closest thing it feels like is toned down Maniaco. Scoop is a lil heavy even on almost flat scoop. 16 grams worked just fine for me. 25 serving is a great. Flavor is Strawberry Snowcone. Very sweet enjoyable. Unique taste to it Post workout buzz is there, also feeling good, light. No side effects with this one. Price is a lil above the average high stim pres which is 56$. And not available everywhere. If you are looking for clean DMHA experience with a mood elevation and euphoric kick, then you can grab this one and add to your collection. They have released new limited edition for Halloween which has alpha Yo for a stronger kick. I use Scary hours in the beginning of my stim cycle,because after using hardcore pres like Dark Labs it might not hit as good as it can. This pre workout actually feels pretty clean, you don't feel unhealthy or your health, Cardiovascular side being comprised. So I'd say you can take it 2-3 times a week, spaces out of course Energy/Power 8/10 Mood elevation 9/10 Taste 9/10 Pumps 7/10 Overall 8.5/10
My Personal Review ?? Saw a review about new pre workout, on YouTube reviewer's channel - thinkfit247, and he said it has the goods, real DMAA feel to it, reminded him OG Mesomorph. So I decided to get one. Experience: I'm not gonna go into too much details, in short it feels like something between Wildfire and Cali Mamba. Not to mention it has the copycat label of Cali Mamba. L-theanine has specific effect on me when I take it in pre workouts. Just like Wildfire it made me calm, collected, focused on workout and very good strength output. Weights felt lighter though-out the workout. Didn't get tired or fatigued. Recovery between sets was decent. No euphoria or noticeable mood elevation. It just puts me in good state to workout hard and long, to add weight and reps to the sets. This is not what I expected to be honest, I'd rather keep taking Wildfire for heavy workouts. I'll give it a try again maybe after stim break or something. Flavor was Melonberry, which is watermelon. It was okay. It's fine china powder, texture is fluffy and light just like wildfire. Flat scoop is exactly 13 grams. Pumps and Mind muscle connection was great too. Tub design is very nice, I dig it. Looks great from my collection. Overall I think if you have Wildfire or Cali Mamba this gonna be excessive. It's fairly expensive pre as well, and not available in many websites. Do I think it legit has DMAA or DMHA? Answer is I don't know. Does it work? Answer is yes. Dystopia is also fairly safe for beginner I'd say, because I didn't notice any side effects that you might usually get from a high stim pre. I'll try it more and if it is gonna perform Better I'll share the experience by adding it here.
High end stim junkie daily pre workout. Full dose is nice and strong. Alpha Yo does not feel very hard hitting or aggressive. Good mood elevation. Good pumps. Gets the job done. Only downside is sometimes it's inconsistent and might give me crash in mood. Main winner point is the price and serving size. 30 servings for 32-33$ with discount codes on Nutricartel. Flavor is peachy witchy. It's okay nice flavor. No complaints The powder texture and consistency is very fluffy and nice, it doesn't get clumpy as fast as older pres of Dark Labs. I'm looking planning to stack it with 2 caps of Euphoria caps from DL when I'm feeling the mood. Some people who tried this combo said it's good mix and works very good. I recommend to pretty much everyone from beginner to stim junkies who wants to have a good Daily pre workout in their rotation. Alpha Yo isn't strong that it might give you typical side effects, but benefits are there, you feel it in your performance, mood elevation and sense of urgency.