Jack3d is the legendary pre workout that started that all high stim phenomenon. I personally didn't have the chance to try it back in the day. So I have tried a sample of new version from Ruesco and this version now formulated under Hi-tech Pharma umbrella. Experience - I took 2 scoops, which most people recommend taking it. 3 scoops might be an overkill. Flavor I had was Pineapple flavor. It's very nice, pleasant flavor, felt like pineapple juice. No bitterness. Beta alanine kicked in pretty fast and strong. Soon after initial caffeine stimulation kicked in. I gave me some stomach ache initially, but then went away. Sense of urgency came like a rocket and it was jittery and anxious type of urgency which I don't like. Drove to the gym and started doing warm ups, it was still building, but fortunately it didn't get any stronger and unfortunately didn't get any better too. Energy was high, but Jittery, shaky feeling stayed with me whole workout and even post workout for another hour. I couldn't concentrate on my other stuff post workout, doing things calmly, I was unrest and all over the place. Comparing to Mesomorph which was great experience both pre and post workout mood elevation department, this one didn't do anything remarkable for me. Along with Kran3d/Amp3d this fall into Hi-tech products that I don't like. Pumps were okay, proprietary blend only has arginine which is the least effective pump ingredient, so you can definitely add pump formula on top of it
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It is one of my favorite add-on ingredients. 100mg of DMHA and 100mg of Eria Jarensis is so versatile, potent and effective as both standalone and stackable product. I have used this mostly before I bought too much DMHA pre workout. İt's great option if you have a lot daily pre workout and very less DMHA pres, thus stacking this onto any regular pre workout, you will have illicit high stim pre workout. Experience : 1-2 caps is the perfect dose for it. I have tried it and tested it out in many ways. On its own with 1 capsule I didn't notice any effects honestly and to me it's not worth it to take a DMHA ingredient, have it in your system, affect your adrenal glands and not benefit from it. because I only take the DMHA couple times a week I don't want to waste this chance. With 2 caps it's a lil different. You feel something in the background, illicit feeling and mild mood elevation. But for me as stim junkie it doesn't do anything, neither I'm not going to take this and do work. I take stims only to improve performance in the gym. However one time I have tried 2 caps with double espresso and went to techno night. It was unique experience, because of the synergy and accelerated effect when these stimulants are paired with Caffeine, in my case caffeine from espresso, around 120mg of it, I could definitely feel it working and contribute to alertness, mood elevation and some background buzz, it was still minor though, nothing crazy like euphoric buzzing out of your mind. Other times I paired it with Psychotic Red, DVST8 Dark and Alpha Lion Supreme pre workout. Each time it was certainly improved experience, it had illicit feeling to it and I did get both DMHA benefits and side effects like dry mouth, appetite suppression slightly more elevated heart rate than usual. Currently I'm not using it, since I already having so many illicit, DMHA, DMBA high stim pre workouts that İ cannot even stack or use it in my weekly rotation. But if you are traveling it's a great option, since you can only take some caffeine pills and this little tub of Euphoria and you can have great workout while traveling or on holidays, away from home. It's relatively side effects free, so beginner high stim users can definitely get it.
I was a big fan of Centurion Labz back in the day, when they were hardcore pre workout brand, in times of Uncle Eddie. I had the original formula that had DMAA and was called just "Rage". It's was strong af for my time and tolerance. Nowadays they are reformulated products towards more FDA compatible side. I have picked up latest version God of Rage - Unchained when It came out, which is without any illicits or DMHA(which previous version God of Rage v2 had) Experience - Flavor I have is Gashing Grape flavor, it's okay, mixability is on point except little glycerol bits sticking to the shaker cup. Beta alanine tingles came in fast and hard, then I expected caffeine or Eria kick in but something else hit me, and it wasn't pleasant.. It was stomach ache, it was like something was piercing my stomach, sharp pain. I didn't pay too much attention, even though I wasn't on empty stomach, still something didn't agree with me in my system. Arrived to the gym. Started doing warm ups, thermogenic effects surprisingly was very apparent from the get go, sinephrine and Grains of paradise (mucuna) contributed well to sweating and elevated heart rate. Pre workout for sure lives up to its name neigh God of Rage. Because I was driven, focused on the task, hitting weights with minimal rest. Sense of urgency with alpha yo was noticeable around 30-40 minutes mark which was translated into aggressive mood, attack mode in training. Pumps were tight and mind muscle connection type. You can add pump formula or pump pills onto it. Even tho stomach ache persisted pretty much all through my workout, I was focused on hitting weights. It prevented me from hitting abs and Cardio in the end,which was a bummer. And I was burping all the time, certainly this pre was very heavy my stomach. I have tried it more in next weeks but that stomach pain was popping up everytime, which was annoying. Gave my buddy to a scoop of that. He said he was okay, no pain or whatsoever, so I sold it to him for cheap. To me it felt like high end daily driver pre workout. Solid 4/5 or 8/10 across all categories. I might try their liquid pre workout maybe it's more gentle on digestive system, because I really like vibes from new lines of pre workouts of Centurion Labz. I suggest you to purchase a sample from them first try and then buy the whole tube, so you don't end up like me. They have samples available for all pre workout and muscle builders.
KJ labs took the stim junkie pre workout world by storm, as all reviews pointed out it being a lil "different" most high stim pres.. According to the reviews I understood its not my type of pre, but out of curiosity ordered a sample from Ruesco, to try it. Experience - Flavor I had was Blue razz flavor, because I took only half of the 10 grams dose, 5 grams dose with more water tasted mild and uneventful, nothing off putting. I didn't stack any pump formula with it, to gauge the effects better. Beta alanine kicked in around 10-15 minutes, it was mid to low level. And then nothing really happened until 45-50 minutes mark. Initially I felt like focus element is kicking in, because my eyes like almost got widened from the sides, I checked the pupils they were slightly dilated. I felt both focused locked in and zoning out between sets. I had zero mood elevation. Whole experience was kinda weird, whatever research chemical or unlisted ingredients is in it, didn't felt natural or normal, most repelling side of this pre was that I didn't really felt like it aided my workout or performance. Certainly I didn't took the other samples. I have tried their oxymelt pre workout with full serving and I did actually like that experience, because had very good physical and mental endurance on it, good energy and minus the weird illicit feeling I got from Smash Amf. Post workout after taking Smash I had crash in mood, I got lazy and didn't had motivation to do anything, even though I didn't felt Ike sleeping, which later that night had me troubling with falling asleep. I'm glad I didn't took the whole serving which might ended with more severe side effects. I have a theory that UK labs, Smash and Firestorm is made by the same manufacturer, since tubs and labels, expiry dates, lot numbers are so similar even identical, even feeling I got Firestorm was not good. Overall since I don't like it I can recommend it to anyone, expert crazy stim junkies who can actually enjoy such pres and looking forward to next illicit shady products!
It's the second pre workout that I have tried from Androgen Factory. First one was Kong Pre workout it was nice daily. This one somewhat falls into high stim pre-workout category. Experience- I had a sample from Ruesco and the flavor was blue crystal slushie, just like Heisenberg produced his "products". It was very harsh flavor, bitter and chemically tasting. Had to chug whole thing right away and chew piece of gum. Beta alanine kick was very strong, itchy feeling all over my hands, face and ears. Caffeine hit was followed shortly after and that was pretty strong, slap fashion wake you up out of the dead type. It kept building up to 1 hour mark and you could feel your energy levels go up and kind of have nuclear heat inside. I'm not sure of the ephedra extract is real on it or not but I felt breathing was a lot better on it and had thermogenic effects too. Cardiovascular Recovery between sets were noticeable shortened. No elevated heart rate, survival or anything. After initial energy kick its pretty smooth ride. At no point I did feel like it's too much or too little. Eria didn't much contribute to mood elevation department. I might be sourced badly or maybe it depends on the batch. Pumps were good nothing crazy. Glycerol contributes more to Swole type of pumps, not much Vascularity. I haven't noticed extra terrastial pumps with Nitrosigne trademark ingredients on its own. Straight L-Citruline works way better than Nitrosigne alone. Focus element was on point, to help to dial in the workout. I'd consider it a beginner high stim pre workout. 2-3 times a week. Because it has eria jerenisis in it, you don't wanna tax your adrenal glands and build tolerance to stims.
Frenzy labs has been in this game for a long time, it's one of the most reputable pre workout companies. I have tried Stim shady from them. And this Demolish has very similiar feel to it like the OG version of Stim Shady. Let's start with the least important section of the review which is taste. The flavor I have was tropical punch flavor and it was very sweet very enjoyable not typical generic fruit punch flavor . frenzy labs always nail the flavoring system. Mixability is on point. The experience: Beta Alanine kicks in around 15 minutes and stays for good 15-20 minutes it's not too strong like a medium level but you get your ears and hands itchy. Then what's quickly followed by is the surge of energy it's not too strong, it gradually builds up, initial kick is most likely caffeine.. 350mg of caffeine is the perfect amount for this pre. It does not blow your head of with caffeine and let the other exotic stimulants shine. from 15 20 minutes mark, up to hour it's a gradual climbing and you get the mood elevation, sense of well-being, mental clarity and overall you're motivated to go to the gym. It's sustained clean energy throughout the workout no ups and downs very smooth experience nothing to fear about. In terms of the DMBA I'm not really sure because when I take the DMBA in some pre-workouts I notice the strength output, Like in Crack Barbarian, weights feel light. I think it has dmaj in it but it's very subtle and you don't really feel the moment it kicks in or change your experience but it does contribute to the overall experience and motivation and mostly performance because you have very good endurance with it. To compare I would say I like the new stim Shady better than this one labels are very familiar but in terms of effect the old version I have and it wasn't that strong or that memorable. I didn't use it much but it got clumped up, turning into gummy texture overtime, most probably due to Glycerol in it. In terms of pumps it's really good, because you are tuned in your workout and you get good pumps anyway. You might wanna stack some pump pills on top it. No crash or side effects from it. It's beginner high stim pre workout, for once a week use because of the DMHA and DMBA, which body builds tolerance to it real quick. It has new version now with new label.
Comeback of the legendary pre workout, which I haven't tried back in the day, but I was expecting a lot from this pre according to latest review and it definitely exceeded my expectations. Taste/Mixability - I have tropical Strawberry flavor it's unbelievable, how good a high stim can taste. It's 10/10, what a treat. Powder itself is very fluffy, looks exactly like Killswitch, Wildfire, Irate. Probably the same manufacturer. No artificial colors which is a plus. Serving side is on point. Flat scoop is 12 grams. Experience- Beta alanine tingles was kinda weak. Energy builds up fairly quickly along with strong euphoric buzz, followed by "eye opening" focus and things kinda become HD. Drive, sense of urgency, motivation, mood elevation, you name it, this pre delivers it all. It's very euphoric, but yet you stay dialed in, focused in the training. No fatigue or energy loss. Strength output is decent. Best intra workout feeling since I had Legit or Barbarian for the first time. Pumps are somehow very good, probably because of the top notch mind muscle connection it provides. No side effects, except wanting to drink more water than usual. Post workout everything is cool. Mood elevation lasts for good couple hours. A little bit of appetite suppression. Comparison/Similarity - It's one of the most euphoric pres out there. Darkhorse felt pretty identical. Hive v2 and Maniaco v1 also feels similiar. Energy/Performance - 10/10 Mood elevation/Euphoria - 10/10 Strength output - 8.5/10 Pumps 9/10 Taste 10/10 Overall 10/10 pre for me. It's actually somewhat slept on product. If you a stim junkie you should not miss the chance to get it or even stock up. It's a work of beauty on its own. 100% recommended
This is hands down one of best DMHA pres out there, that has no L-theanine, GABA or Kanna any other crap. Grabbed a tub from the last restock at Nutricartel, according to Jake this was the last batch ever. Taste/Mixability/Serving size - Powder is pretty clumped up, and fixated like that lol It's like little rocks that won't turn into powder, to get the full serving size you have to heap the shit out of the scoop or take 1.5 scoops Mixes just fine though. Actually I was surprised it got dissolved after couple shakes and nothing sat at the bottom of the shaker cup. Flavor is Red Gummy, which reminded me El Jefe's gummy bears flavor. It's kinda nasty but you can just chug it down. Experience- Barely felt any beta alanine. It took good 45 minutes to peak. It's not a slapper. Energy builds up slowly, but it takes you from zero to 100 for sure. Best way I can describe it that, it will make you LOCKED IN. Super focus , drive , aggressive mood elevation are the main points. DMHA feels legit, it's not euphoric. Mind muscle connection are outstanding, pumps are awesome. I got to agree with HighStimAce view on Citruline Malate being somehow better tha L-Citruline alone. High energy is sustained throughout the workout, you just don't feel any fatigue or pain. It's not a drug addict stim junkie pre, you are not feeling high or buzzing. Just working hard and training as brutal as possible,which I really really loved. Comparison/Similarity - I could say such DMHA pres has its own category which stands out on pure performance, aggressive mood elevation and endurance. This falls just right in that category along with OG Chaotic Rage, Crack Primal, OG Helios and new Pillager as well. Post workout - I had good mood, sense of wellbeing and still tons of energy. No fatigue despite the intense training. No major sides effects, except mouth feeling dry and drinking tons of water, like Saul Goodman coming out of dessert. Appetite is down by a lot. Energy - 5/5 Strength/power output - 4/5 Mood elevation(aggressive) - 5/5 Pumps 4/5 Taste 2/5 Overall- strong 4/5.
It’s a solid high end daily pre workout which delivers long sustained energy. I didn't expect much from the label and from other reviews. It's not much talked pre workout. So decided grab a sample from Ruesco and try it. Taste and mixability is great. No chemical aftertaste. Blue Ice flavor is I assume is blue raspberry flavor which is really hard to mess up, so it was very enjoyable, also since there not a lot to mask. Energy and urgency comes in fast but in a very smooth fashion, and keeps going for solid 2-3 hours. Focus and drive is okay, it's not the craziest like Piana is displayed in the picture. No side effects, maybe a little elevated heart rate which isn't that big of a deal. You can stack it with pump formula. I used without it to gauge the effects better, since adding pump formula can mellow out the experience and nerf the stimulants in it. I got the pump from training itself. No crazy Vascularity or swole pumps. It's okay Performance 4/5 Energy 4/5 Mood elevation 3/5 Pumps 3/5 Taste/Mixability 5/5 Overall 3.5/5 I personally would not buy a whole tub, since there are way better daily pre-workouts that works far super than this one. It's not a weak pre on its own though, for beginners or individuals low stim tolerance it's considered as high stim pre. Rich Piana once said he used 3 scoops of this all the time which is crazy. RIP Legend
Experience with new Irate was disappointing experience. I took the pre at full 11 grams, Beta Alanine kicked in first, mid – to high level of tingles. Then quickly followed by mood elevation, warm fuzzy euphoric feeling, something was brewing in the background then it became apparent enough for illicit type of pre workout especially claiming DMAA. Then good focus, nootropic effects came in, music sounded good, start was very good, high level. But then, 30 minutes in, it kinda leveled out, stopped all together, I went back to “normal” calm state, during the actual workout it did not aid me in any way. 2nd time I took it was almost 2 scoops of it which equals to 15 grams. That's when the experience was solid. But still nothing crazy like DMAA would actually give you. Mood elevation, motivation, good energy was there accompanied with good focus. It's a stim junkie pre workout they must be taken only after stim break when stim tolerance is fairly low. And in total if I'd try a sample of it I wouldn't buy the whole tub. So I keep it in my stash to use it only after stim break. That's when it will shine. Pumps were okay. Flavor is Pink Cosmic candy which is fairly nice tasting, it reminds me Pink Lemonade flavor. It's artificial color free so that's a plus. Overall I was a big fan of Jaggernaut nutrition back in the, got to try Wild pre back then. But not the Irate. People say original formula with 1,3 DMAA was a lot stronger and apparent on euphoria. It's a pre workout that I'd recommend to beginner stim junkies who wants to dabble with illicit exotic ingredients without getting the side effects