Jack3d is the legendary pre workout that started that all high stim phenomenon. I personally didn't have the chance to try it back in the day. So I have tried a sample of new version from Ruesco and this version now formulated under Hi-tech Pharma umbrella. Experience - I took 2 scoops, which most people recommend taking it. 3 scoops might be an overkill. Flavor I had was Pineapple flavor. It's very nice, pleasant flavor, felt like pineapple juice. No bitterness. Beta alanine kicked in pretty fast and strong. Soon after initial caffeine stimulation kicked in. I gave me some stomach ache initially, but then went away. Sense of urgency came like a rocket and it was jittery and anxious type of urgency which I don't like. Drove to the gym and started doing warm ups, it was still building, but fortunately it didn't get any stronger and unfortunately didn't get any better too. Energy was high, but Jittery, shaky feeling stayed with me whole workout and even post workout for another hour. I couldn't concentrate on my other stuff post workout, doing things calmly, I was unrest and all over the place. Comparing to Mesomorph which was great experience both pre and post workout mood elevation department, this one didn't do anything remarkable for me. Along with Kran3d/Amp3d this fall into Hi-tech products that I don't like. Pumps were okay, proprietary blend only has arginine which is the least effective pump ingredient, so you can definitely add pump formula on top of it
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It is one of my favorite add-on ingredients. 100mg of DMHA and 100mg of Eria Jarensis is so versatile, potent and effective as both standalone and stackable product. I have used this mostly before I bought too much DMHA pre workout. İt's great option if you have a lot daily pre workout and very less DMHA pres, thus stacking this onto any regular pre workout, you will have illicit high stim pre workout. Experience : 1-2 caps is the perfect dose for it. I have tried it and tested it out in many ways. On its own with 1 capsule I didn't notice any effects honestly and to me it's not worth it to take a DMHA ingredient, have it in your system, affect your adrenal glands and not benefit from it. because I only take the DMHA couple times a week I don't want to waste this chance. With 2 caps it's a lil different. You feel something in the background, illicit feeling and mild mood elevation. But for me as stim junkie it doesn't do anything, neither I'm not going to take this and do work. I take stims only to improve performance in the gym. However one time I have tried 2 caps with double espresso and went to techno night. It was unique experience, because of the synergy and accelerated effect when these stimulants are paired with Caffeine, in my case caffeine from espresso, around 120mg of it, I could definitely feel it working and contribute to alertness, mood elevation and some background buzz, it was still minor though, nothing crazy like euphoric buzzing out of your mind. Other times I paired it with Psychotic Red, DVST8 Dark and Alpha Lion Supreme pre workout. Each time it was certainly improved experience, it had illicit feeling to it and I did get both DMHA benefits and side effects like dry mouth, appetite suppression slightly more elevated heart rate than usual. Currently I'm not using it, since I already having so many illicit, DMHA, DMBA high stim pre workouts that İ cannot even stack or use it in my weekly rotation. But if you are traveling it's a great option, since you can only take some caffeine pills and this little tub of Euphoria and you can have great workout while traveling or on holidays, away from home. It's relatively side effects free, so beginner high stim users can definitely get it.
I was a big fan of Centurion Labz back in the day, when they were hardcore pre workout brand, in times of Uncle Eddie. I had the original formula that had DMAA and was called just "Rage". It's was strong af for my time and tolerance. Nowadays they are reformulated products towards more FDA compatible side. I have picked up latest version God of Rage - Unchained when It came out, which is without any illicits or DMHA(which previous version God of Rage v2 had) Experience - Flavor I have is Gashing Grape flavor, it's okay, mixability is on point except little glycerol bits sticking to the shaker cup. Beta alanine tingles came in fast and hard, then I expected caffeine or Eria kick in but something else hit me, and it wasn't pleasant.. It was stomach ache, it was like something was piercing my stomach, sharp pain. I didn't pay too much attention, even though I wasn't on empty stomach, still something didn't agree with me in my system. Arrived to the gym. Started doing warm ups, thermogenic effects surprisingly was very apparent from the get go, sinephrine and Grains of paradise (mucuna) contributed well to sweating and elevated heart rate. Pre workout for sure lives up to its name neigh God of Rage. Because I was driven, focused on the task, hitting weights with minimal rest. Sense of urgency with alpha yo was noticeable around 30-40 minutes mark which was translated into aggressive mood, attack mode in training. Pumps were tight and mind muscle connection type. You can add pump formula or pump pills onto it. Even tho stomach ache persisted pretty much all through my workout, I was focused on hitting weights. It prevented me from hitting abs and Cardio in the end,which was a bummer. And I was burping all the time, certainly this pre was very heavy my stomach. I have tried it more in next weeks but that stomach pain was popping up everytime, which was annoying. Gave my buddy to a scoop of that. He said he was okay, no pain or whatsoever, so I sold it to him for cheap. To me it felt like high end daily driver pre workout. Solid 4/5 or 8/10 across all categories. I might try their liquid pre workout maybe it's more gentle on digestive system, because I really like vibes from new lines of pre workouts of Centurion Labz. I suggest you to purchase a sample from them first try and then buy the whole tube, so you don't end up like me. They have samples available for all pre workout and muscle builders.
KJ labs took the stim junkie pre workout world by storm, as all reviews pointed out it being a lil "different" most high stim pres.. According to the reviews I understood its not my type of pre, but out of curiosity ordered a sample from Ruesco, to try it. Experience - Flavor I had was Blue razz flavor, because I took only half of the 10 grams dose, 5 grams dose with more water tasted mild and uneventful, nothing off putting. I didn't stack any pump formula with it, to gauge the effects better. Beta alanine kicked in around 10-15 minutes, it was mid to low level. And then nothing really happened until 45-50 minutes mark. Initially I felt like focus element is kicking in, because my eyes like almost got widened from the sides, I checked the pupils they were slightly dilated. I felt both focused locked in and zoning out between sets. I had zero mood elevation. Whole experience was kinda weird, whatever research chemical or unlisted ingredients is in it, didn't felt natural or normal, most repelling side of this pre was that I didn't really felt like it aided my workout or performance. Certainly I didn't took the other samples. I have tried their oxymelt pre workout with full serving and I did actually like that experience, because had very good physical and mental endurance on it, good energy and minus the weird illicit feeling I got from Smash Amf. Post workout after taking Smash I had crash in mood, I got lazy and didn't had motivation to do anything, even though I didn't felt Ike sleeping, which later that night had me troubling with falling asleep. I'm glad I didn't took the whole serving which might ended with more severe side effects. I have a theory that UK labs, Smash and Firestorm is made by the same manufacturer, since tubs and labels, expiry dates, lot numbers are so similar even identical, even feeling I got Firestorm was not good. Overall since I don't like it I can recommend it to anyone, expert crazy stim junkies who can actually enjoy such pres and looking forward to next illicit shady products!
It's the second pre workout that I have tried from Androgen Factory. First one was Kong Pre workout it was nice daily. This one somewhat falls into high stim pre-workout category. Experience- I had a sample from Ruesco and the flavor was blue crystal slushie, just like Heisenberg produced his "products". It was very harsh flavor, bitter and chemically tasting. Had to chug whole thing right away and chew piece of gum. Beta alanine kick was very strong, itchy feeling all over my hands, face and ears. Caffeine hit was followed shortly after and that was pretty strong, slap fashion wake you up out of the dead type. It kept building up to 1 hour mark and you could feel your energy levels go up and kind of have nuclear heat inside. I'm not sure of the ephedra extract is real on it or not but I felt breathing was a lot better on it and had thermogenic effects too. Cardiovascular Recovery between sets were noticeable shortened. No elevated heart rate, survival or anything. After initial energy kick its pretty smooth ride. At no point I did feel like it's too much or too little. Eria didn't much contribute to mood elevation department. I might be sourced badly or maybe it depends on the batch. Pumps were good nothing crazy. Glycerol contributes more to Swole type of pumps, not much Vascularity. I haven't noticed extra terrastial pumps with Nitrosigne trademark ingredients on its own. Straight L-Citruline works way better than Nitrosigne alone. Focus element was on point, to help to dial in the workout. I'd consider it a beginner high stim pre workout. 2-3 times a week. Because it has eria jerenisis in it, you don't wanna tax your adrenal glands and build tolerance to stims.
Frenzy labs has been in this game for a long time, it's one of the most reputable pre workout companies. I have tried Stim shady from them. And this Demolish has very similiar feel to it like the OG version of Stim Shady. Let's start with the least important section of the review which is taste. The flavor I have was tropical punch flavor and it was very sweet very enjoyable not typical generic fruit punch flavor . frenzy labs always nail the flavoring system. Mixability is on point. The experience: Beta Alanine kicks in around 15 minutes and stays for good 15-20 minutes it's not too strong like a medium level but you get your ears and hands itchy. Then what's quickly followed by is the surge of energy it's not too strong, it gradually builds up, initial kick is most likely caffeine.. 350mg of caffeine is the perfect amount for this pre. It does not blow your head of with caffeine and let the other exotic stimulants shine. from 15 20 minutes mark, up to hour it's a gradual climbing and you get the mood elevation, sense of well-being, mental clarity and overall you're motivated to go to the gym. It's sustained clean energy throughout the workout no ups and downs very smooth experience nothing to fear about. In terms of the DMBA I'm not really sure because when I take the DMBA in some pre-workouts I notice the strength output, Like in Crack Barbarian, weights feel light. I think it has dmaj in it but it's very subtle and you don't really feel the moment it kicks in or change your experience but it does contribute to the overall experience and motivation and mostly performance because you have very good endurance with it. To compare I would say I like the new stim Shady better than this one labels are very familiar but in terms of effect the old version I have and it wasn't that strong or that memorable. I didn't use it much but it got clumped up, turning into gummy texture overtime, most probably due to Glycerol in it. In terms of pumps it's really good, because you are tuned in your workout and you get good pumps anyway. You might wanna stack some pump pills on top it. No crash or side effects from it. It's beginner high stim pre workout, for once a week use because of the DMHA and DMBA, which body builds tolerance to it real quick. It has new version now with new label.
Maniaco is a fantastic pre workout. It reminds me of the OG Zeus formula. It is a very strong pre workout, but not overwhelming. It's effects set in fast, and last a long time. This is an extremely euphoric pre workout thanks to the smooth DMHA formula. A quick google search or reddit search will show you that this is often regarded as a favorite pre workout of most people Pros: - extremely long lasting - strong blend - consistent effects - long lasting effects Neutral: - tingles Cons: - the taste is not my favorite. I got the sour blueberry, and while a lot of people enjoy the taste, I have to quite literally choke it down (keep in mind though, flavor is extremely subjective) - cost. This is a pricier pre workout, usually $50ish and comes with only 20 servings
Bought Crack purple original formula in 2021 from suppscentral using an FDN discount code after seeing the hype it was getting from reviewers. I used the whole tub over about two years and absolutely loved it. I'm not sure if there was 'real DMAA', since this is my only experience with a preworkout that even CLAIMS DMAA. But whatever is in here, it makes for an amazing preworkout and seems much stronger than just the usual DMHA. I had Very Dark Berry flavour and it was quite good. On a full serve (2 scoops), it takes about ~15 minutes to first kick in, and from there the focus, good mood, and driving energy builds progressively for another hour or so. Adrenaline is pumping and you feel powerful: you can do higher weight and more reps without getting fatigued. You don’t get much euphoric mood elevation per se. You're just dialled in and feeling positive about the workout. The peak of the effects last from about ~40 minutes to ~2 hours after ingestion. You can still feel it floating around your system for a fair few hours after, so it may disturb sleep if you take it after 5pm. The pump formula is obviously exceptionally good for a high-stim preworkout like this. And it delivers. Great muscle contractions and a surprisingly big pump for something with so many vasoconstricting stimulants. Side effects are minimal and basically limited to what can be expected from a preworkout like this: e.g increased heart rate, shaky hands, maybe a bit of a crash, queasy feeling, headaches, I possibly threw up one time, and increased sweating (which might be a positive for some). Overall, this is a top-tier preworkout which delivers in all areas. This review has been mainly based on the 2 scoop (full serve) experience. However I also used 1 scoop and 1.5 scoops on different occasions, with the effects being basically the same but just a bit attenuated. This preworkout is clearly ‘hardcore’, so start with 1 scoop to assess tolerance. I even think that some people will find 1 or 1.5 scoops to be more than enough. It’s a shame that Dark Labs is pivoting away from DMAA stuff (though again who knows if it was in here) due to legal and manufacturing issues, and that the original Crack purple that I had is probably never coming back. I’m glad I got to try this one while it was in its prime. TLDR: Hardcore preworkout specialising in strong adrenergic energy that makes you feel powerful while lifting, with intense focus and positive mood. If you can find the original formula anywhere I would say get some now because it’s going to be all gone very soon if it isn’t already.
I bought Excelsior (06/24) and used it sporadically both as a study aid and a preworkout up until early 2024. As a nootropic, I used 0.5-1 scoop. At this dose, Excelsior is hands-down the best tunnel-vision focus and sit-in-one-place type energy I’ve got from a supplement. In the same league as prescription stimulants like ritalin, vyvanse, etc. No significant side effects at this dose. As a preworkout, I mostly used 1.5 scoops (2 on special occasions). The caffeine energy (I estimate ~350-400mg on full 2 scoops) kicks in ~10-15 minutes after taking. The initial physical caffeine energy is quite strong and increases your heart rate. ~30 minutes in you get a wave of next-level focus, euphoria, and mental motivation. This builds for another half hour then plateaus until after your workout. The euphoria and energetic drive is insane. I was locked in, lifting like a machine, feeling like I was flying, and music sounded great. The focus, mental energy and head high is far more intense than anything you'd get from a DMHA/DMAA based pre. Strong thermogenic effect and long-lasting appetite suppression. Minimal extra pumps. But no one cares in this context. You get pumped because of how hard you're working, not because of any citrulline or whatever that may or may not actually be in the tub (as someone else here said, this label is a work of fiction). There’s a crash after ~3-4 hours, reminiscent of a ritalin comedown but probably worse. When you’re up, the feeling is quite ‘clean’; the comedown is pretty ‘dirty’ and uncomfortable: you don’t feel good. I think I threw up once. Sometimes I would fall asleep and wake up in a pool of sweat; other times I managed to use the focus to do some work. DO NOT TAKE IN LATE AFTERNOON OR EVENING: it will keep you awake at night. The actual effects last about 3 hours, but it's still in your system for at least 8+. These effects make sense given that it almost definitely contains some illicit research chemical not on label. People on Reddit rumour that earlier batches had 3-FMA and that later ones (around my 06/24) had Ethylphenidate. But nothing is proven for certain so take that with a grain of salt, and I've no idea what might be in the even newer batches. Not sure where to buy retail now, though I've seen tubs on ebay going for >$200. TLDR: 0.5-1 scoops is the best non-prescription nootropic I've used for focus. 1.5-2 scoops is a strong energy preworkout with next-level illicit focus and euphoria. Best pre-workout I've had. Will surely go down in the annals of pre-workout history with the likes of Craze and Dark Energy as one of the greats. However, we do not know what is in there so please be responsible and check with your doctor if you plan to use.
I first tried crack gold from Ruesco as a sample back in the beginning of 2024 when it first sold out from its original run on Dark Labs. I got lucky in finding a distributor that had the last of that batch and was able to order it… and then a few months later it was rereleased and I was a bit miffed that I had gone out of my way for them to just release it again. From the reviews I read, that rerelease was nowhere as good as the original run. Nowadays there’s the V2 Crack Gold with only DMHA. As a proud owner of the original batch, I treat it likea fine champagne and only bring it out when the circumstances seem fit. This indeed one of those Dark Labs DMAA+DMHA hitters boasting 100mg and 209mg respectively. The intensity that this brew brings is unlike any other preworkout of its kind. Even in comparison to legit pre, Crack Gold has an intensity and dirtiness about it that I’ve never achieved off Legit Pre! Crack Gold is one of those pre workouts with a laundry list of stims, nootropics and pumps. Each set is intense with intention to set PRs! The music sounds louder and stronger no matter what it is; the euphoria, intensity, and hostility that comes from crack gold seems almost emotional. Like you’re attempting to kill the weights through a crime of passion. Strength is seemingly born from this elixir that you had just ingested prior to your session and you are now enveloped in a world of strength and hostility… in a fun way! It’s also really fun! Each exercise makes you eager to continue and move onto the next exercise. The flavor “rainbow candy” tastes neither like rainbow or candy. It tastes like sweetened delousing agent from WW2 with a hint of agent orange. The chemical warfare assault on your tastebuds is a clear indicator that you just ingested one of the strongest preworkouts known to man and are soon to become a super human parody of yourself as a PR setting nightmare machine.
One of my favorite things about this formula is how transparent and easy it is to read. Even going off the top of my head I can list it as 10grams citrulline, 3200mg beta alanine, 4grams tyrosine, 400mg caffeine, 300mg DMHA, 2mg alpha yo…. i’m sure I’m forgetting some but the fact that I can list that from memory is a big deal. I know what I’m getting with each scoop, and I know I’m in for a killer workout filled with euphoric aggression! I have the first run Maniaco, I just happened to buy a tub, and then I won a dark labs giveaway on instagram which scored me another 2 tubs and some other goodies The formula between the citrulline, caffeine, and DMHA is a great package that really balances out the overall effectiveness of this blend. This is one of those workouts that come with increased mood with intensity, and motivation that allows you to set personal records and keep going! The last time I ran Maniaco was on a Tuesday where I spent an hour and a half in the gym which felt like 10 minutes. Time blindness is a comea on atrong where you lose yourself in a real mind muscle connection between you and the weights, balanced well between pump and stim. This is not a traditional dark labs product that’s like having your head explode while trying to snap barbells in half. This is a happy, euphoric, “I’m about to fuck you up” feel that comes on as you get to your next set. The flavor is something else as well, I’ve been digging the cherry mango tropical style of the ones that I have opened. I have yet to open the more pina colada variant. This is a good, no nonsense, solid hitting stim junkie pre workout; with intense euphoria, inspiration and determination that drives you harder than any other high stim pre that might have 1000 different ingredients. I can’t recommend this one enough, I’m just glad that a 2nd batch has come out so I can try new flavors if I ever get around to it
Blackstone labs is one of the most hardcore brands out there. I'm well familiar with their products even back in the day from Dust and Dust v2 DMHA pres. Lately they came up with reformulated version of hardcore sleep aid - Anesthetized. Which has a special heavy hitter and gray area ingredient called Phenibut. If you are a stim junkie you are well aware of this substance. Lately reviewers been praising this sleep aid and I decided to purchase one from Nutritional Supplements Shop. Taste/Mixability/Serving size- I got the Snowcone flavor. It's taste amazing, taking into account that sleep aid products usually hard to mask and make good tasting because the ingredients they have in it. 11 gram scoop size on the scale is well on point, powder's texture and consistency is very fine (see in the attachment pictures). Powder itself to get fully dissolve takes a little bit of effort than other powder products, because it seems like it has some hydrophobic like ingredients, but eventually it all gets dissolved and not much settlings at the bottom of the shaker cup. Snowcone flavor is sweet, enjoyable, with cold water it's taste like treat. No aftertaste or bitterness in the backend. Servings per container is 25 grams which is a plus, since some sleeps supps has 20/40 servings. Effects- I've tried this 2 times now, spaced out with 7-8 days. I went with 8 grams first and then 2nd time Itook 10 grams.Because of the phenibut being a highly addictive compound, it's not recommended to take it more than 2-4 times a month. Withdrawel of phenibut is very horrible and it may cause hallucinations and body pain until it goes away. So individuals planning to take it must be very careful and responsible with this. Both two times I took it 1 hour before the sleep time and it some very interesting effects for me. Most bizarre point is actually doesn't really matter in term of its effectiveness. I got strange tingles and itchy feeling in my hands and face, just like Beta alanine gives. But my skin didn't get red, I checked the nutritional facts again maybe it had niacin so maybe it was the reason I got it, like niacin flush. But it does not and there are not any other new ingredient that I haven't tried before, including phenibut. In terms of its strength of making you fall asleep I can't point out too much. I didn't felt like I was cold out instantly or faster than normal or any other sleep aids. But it's very effective to keep you asleep during the night. The next day upon waking up I felt like I need more sleep, I had 8 hours sleep and I went back to sleep again to get another hour. I didn't experience any obvious mood elevation like I usually get even from Somatomax's half serving. I felt okay, calm rested but no signs of taking phenibut. So I could say so far I'm not really impressed. Somatomax is still king for me. Some reviewers swear by it and have put it in the top spot in their top sleep aids lists. People are different so is the experience and reactions to it. I'll try it more in the future with 11 grams next time. Maybe next month to take 2 weeks completely off phenibut to gauge its effect better. I'll write review on Somatomax which is 20 servings on label but technically it's 40 servings for me because I use only half serving and it's way more effective than this product. Maybe it's a good product for individuals who wants to dabble with exotic sleep supps and not be overwhelmed with strong products like Somatomax which has double amount of phenibut in it 💀 To conclude I'm not to sure to recommend this product since I haven't been experiencing its full effect yet, which I use such products to get better mood next day, aid to somewhat reset my stim tolerance and feel high stim pres better the next days. So far it felt like daily sleep aids supplements and label and effects hasn't been matching for me. If it was a daily supp without phenibut it would be 5/5 sleep aid but because of the label and claims it's a generous 3/5